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JoeO · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 10

Here is a minor quibble but something I would really like to see: Accurate mile markers on the run. I think that inaccurate mile markers are worse than none at all

I did Timberman in 2006, 2008, and this year and noticed that a couple of the mile markers were way off each year. Both the Garmin and sheer common sense made it clear I don't run suddenly run one mile that slow and then the next that fast in running-only races, much less half-irons. I've taken to ignoring the mile markers altogether so I am fine. But not everybody has a Garmin.

I'm not asking for them to be certified or anything. Just having someone ride a bike with a Garmin to mark off the spots before would be close enough.

leggett24 · Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 10

JINXS · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 15

+1 for the plastic water bottle
+1 for the visor

I'll probably be shot for this suggestion but how about a cotton t-shit. I have a bunch of the tech t's now. Finisher's shirts?

As far of the dumb questions on Active are these Ironman questions because I don't see them on other races I register for?

cyclisto · Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

KJ - with the added fees from wtc and active this race is now a 20% premium over any other half (at least local races, I'm not talking about the 1500 YEAHDUDES at other 70.3s).

Can you offer a registration other than Active? They're in the same boat as ticketbastard - $15+ "courtesy fee" are you kidding me?

josh@pennhill.com · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 106 Location: NH

I don't have a problem with the fees -- seem in line with everywhere else
i got charged about $15 from Active -- not a big deal in my opinion

keithjordan · Site Admin Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 2531

The Active fee is less than what online fee was last year, I believe.

I wish there was no online fee, the credit cards take a % from the online registration company....

cyclisto · Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

keithjordan · Site Admin Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 2531

I'm pretty sure we weren't the folks that said we "didn't have the resources to cash checks and pen numbers for 500 participants". In fact, I'm certain it isn't us.....
We've offered paper apps every year for our events, and have "cashed checks, manually entered info, etc" for quite some time.

Still do, for Black Fly and will for Big Lake. Mooseman and Timberman are part of the Ironman series, and Active is their choice of registration.

As you'll see, Black Fly is still on lin-mark, and you may choose the mail in feature and send in a check.

In the end, all we can do is try our best to make everyone happy. It's an impossible task, I'm learning.

Are Timberman and Mooseman more pricey than other races? They're more pricey than some, less pricey than others. Do I think they're still the best value out there? Yes, I do. We continue to add/improve things.

All of it costs money, unfortunately. For Timberman, we added more beer, margaritas, better food,recovery zone, live webcasting, team tailgating, Kids Zone (with flat screen tvs, Wii's), General Store for kids with free stuff, cold towel station, more volunteer groups, more police, etc. ALL of that costs alot of money. It's NOT given to us. The food was way more money, but we want to offer only the best.

Heck, for Mooseman we brought in topsoil and fill, so there wouldn't be a chance of puddles if it rained. YES, we paid for it. Do we need to do it? No, but we want things to be great. This offseason, we're bringing in more topsoil and SEEDING the area, so we'll have a nice grassy area for Mooseman.

Could we produce the races for less money? Sure, but they wouldn't be what we want/expect them to be. The expectation when folks come to the race is really high. Just the way we like it. But, we also have to live up to that, and surpass it. We take a tremendous amount of pride in what we do. I hope that shows....

wants2tri · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 40

If you want to participate/compete in triathlon, you have choices about where to do that. In making those choices, you (not the RD) decide what price you are willing to accept, and in doing so you can expect a relative production in terms of support, amenities and let's face it, energy. KJ and Endorfun do it GREAT. If I'm going to enter a tri and I want to be treated like I'm welcome, like I'm doing something special, then I'm going to go to Endorfun because that's where it's going to happen. If I want no or low frills, little post-race food, less than stellar setting for the event, I know where to go....that's available elsewhere. Thank you KJ and Endorfun. We are ABSOLUTELY getting what we pay for, and the VALUE far exceeds the dollar.

josh@pennhill.com · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 106 Location: NH

to cyclisto -- stop complaining and arguing -- register and have fun or don't but stop badgering Endorfun

They put on excellent race and their rates are competitive with everyone else and Active.Com provides all of us (race directors and racers) with a good tool for dealing with registration. You've already made your point about it -- so why keep on posting? childish, mean, and silly.

keithjordan · Site Admin Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 2531

I'm fine with any/all complaints and criticisms, it's how we make things better Very Happy

As always, we have to make decisions along the way that some folks won't like. And, coupled with that, some of the decisions aren't ours to make. I wish it was possible to make everyone happy. You'd be astonished at how hard our crew works to make that happen. In the end, it's an impossibility.

My one wish is that EVERYONE, whether they're happy or not with a decision, understand that we ALWAYS try to do right by the athlete. We consistently make things more difficult on ourselves to make the athlete experience better.

I'd happily put our races up against ANY in the world.

logella · Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

This is why we all like your races so much. You definitely go the extra mile to make everything the best it can be. Will it ever be perfect and please everyone - of course not. But, you do the absolute best you can.

+1 on race visors instead of hats.
+1 on a full IM but in Texas!

laddheath · Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Lee, NH

+1 for all the "extra stuff" that Keith has at his races. Endorfun Sports races are just in a separate class than the other local ones.

also a huge PLUS 1 for an IRONMAN in NH.

gstriclub · Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 73

A choice for COTTON T-shirts OR running shirts.

I have so many running shirts that I never wear. I can't run enough to wear one on a regular basis.

A cotton t-shirt, especially a nice one, I would wear any place.

JINXS · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 15

One thing I've seen at some of the WTC races is an event poster. I frame them and hang them in my workout area. Have you ever thought about doing one for Moosman and Timberman? The graphics you do for the t-shirts are always awsome and I bet you could come up with a great poster.